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Is this a good idea or would it cause condensation and rot the wood?
Is this a good idea or would it cause condensation and rot the wood?
Is this a good idea or would it cause condensation and rot the wood?
here we go again
.. Just think about it ... Insulating your house loft does not cause condensation.....
Hi derekm,
It is a serious question and I was hoping for your answer. Got some stuff that went under lead roofs, but more like felt for lead to slide on. Should I not bother with something between aluminium and wood then?
No it won't -
. . . .the more insulation you have the better chance your bees have of maintaining the hive temperature . . . . . . . . . .
Just think about it ... Insulating your house loft does not cause condensation.....
Maybe, but sealing it all up without the proper ventilation does, See Part F of the building regulations!
Bees generate their own heat.
Insulation with ventilation, (ie slab of celotex/polystyrene on the OUTSIDE) will help to reduce loss of heat.
Closing the vents with insulation on the inside WILL cause damp and increase vulnerability to disease, SIMPLE.
the kingspan if fitted snuggly the foil surfaces will stop moisture entering the roof space i.e. it becomes "A warm roof".Unless you fork out on bespoke aluminium covers for your roofs to give you extra depth you are better off putting insulation inside the roof i.e. between the roof and the crown board - if you have battens inside the roof either rip them out or cut the insulation to fit inside them. You don't need an inch empty space between CB and roof unless you're one of these id!ots who believe that a raging gale through the cluster courtesy of gaping holes in the crown board is good for the bees and you definitely don't need roof vents - all my roofs have insulation inside and all but two have no ventilation holes - never had trouble with condensation.
If you are going to put insulation on - don't b*gger about with polystyrene and such like - just get some kingspan
Closing the vents with insulation on the inside WILL cause damp and increase vulnerability to disease, SIMPLE.
Bees generate their own heat.
Horsesh1t
Swienty poly hives have an aluminium roof, there is a slab of polystyrene that sits inside it above the crownboard. Crownboard is closed throughout the year, including winter, and only because I got the boards made to be dual purpose and can also use them as feeder boards if necessary - but never have done.Polystyrene sheet under aluminium rooves
Is this a good idea or would it cause condensation and rot the wood?
The insulation goes beneath the roof and fully covers the top of the boxes. The aluminium roof does not come into contact with the boxes, there is slight play so they can be lifted off, but not much.Should I not bother with something between aluminium and wood then?
Possibly, with a thin-walled wooden hive, solid floor, and very reduced entrance, but most people have open mesh floors because that's what's supplied these days. Plenty of air available that way, and the bees are more than capable of moving it around if they want to. But, that said, I've used a solid floor along with thick top insulation and a polycarbonate crownboard. The hive stayed dry during a rather wet winter.Closing the vents with insulation on the inside WILL cause damp and increase vulnerability to disease, SIMPLE.
So either make an airtight seal at the insulation level or else provide some ventilation to disapate the warm air once it escapes to the roof void.
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