new oxalic treatment OXUVAR

[MuswellMetro]

Oxalic Treatments are just like buses, they arrive in two's, having just approved api bioxal i have been told Oxuvar another one for trickling, authorised 3 weeks ago in October, now on the VMD list

http://www.biovet.ch/en/Imkerei/oxuvar.html

it appears to be a 3.5% oxalic dihydrate mixed up solution dribbled or sprayed

 

[Hivemaker.]

it appears to be a 3.5% oxalic dihydrate mixed up solution dribbled or sprayed

Hallelujah, at long last, oxalic acid mixed with sugar solution for treating varroa, just what we been waiting for.

. Add the required amount of sugar (sucrose) as used for feeding the bees:
- 275 g sugar when using the 275 g bottle
- 1 kg sugar when using the 1000 g bottle
Close the container and shake vigorously until the sugar is completely dissolved. The solution is now ready to use and should be applied lukewarm.

 

[Finman]

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This is however the best:

British university says that oxalic acid fumigation is the best method in the world.

Vet officials say that it is against law because oxalic acid is not approved
That discussion has continued 13 years.

When oxalic acid was carefully researched out, that oxalic acid is harmless, vets invented that however it is illegal.

Carrot has 100 fold more oxalic acid than biggest values in honey, but discussion continues.

Xxxxxxx

Irish vets copied too old oxalic acid content from EU varroa group papers and they have not been able to correct the value from 4% to 3.5% during 10 years. Italians use 4%. That was value what prof Nanetti used 1997. USA and Canada uses 2.8% like Swiss, but 10 years later than the Swiss.

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[Finman]

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But as we know, how difficult is to mix sugar and water together, it is better to buy from Germany beekeeping stuffs

- biopollen, 97% sugar, £4/kg. 8 fold to normal.

- oxalic liquid, 96% water + bottle

In Germany Oxuvar ground price is 30€/litre. 4% Oxalic acid.

Oxalic acid is 10€/kg.


What heck it makes 30€/kg to mix water 1 litre and 40g acid?
....the vet license, approved...


Carry on.... license to kill mites.

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[Finman]

Hallelujah, at long last, oxalic acid mixed with sugar solution for treating varroa, just what we been waiting for.

Expencive water 30€/litre, made in Germany. That is better business than Manuka honey.

The best smoker in the world is £60, but the same thing in China is £4.

 

[Finman]

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I can buy German milk from Lidl 0.8 €/litre. But, but Oxuvar water 15€/ 0.5 litre

Milk production is quite complex.

Then how long 2 hiver owner can store the bottle?

100 water and 100 g sugar for 3-5 hives.

500 g water and 500 g sugar fot 15-25 hives.

To 2 hive owner 10 years
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[Hivemaker.]

Milk production is quite complex.
Then how long 2 hiver owner can store the bottle

Where would be the best place to buy some pharmaceutical grade milk from.

Usually okay keeping fresh milk in the fridge for two or three days, even for a two hive owner.

 

[Finman]

Where would be the best place to buy some pharmaceutical grade milk from.

Usually okay keeping fresh milk in the fridge for two or three days, even for a two hive owner.

We can learn so much from this forum. Now just wait the Welsh solution. They surely need a Milk Degree.

 

[Anduril]

Where would be the best place to buy some pharmaceutical grade milk from.

Usually okay keeping fresh milk in the fridge for two or three days, even for a two hive owner.

Pharmaceutical grade milk! It's the heavily filtered lasts for 7 days in the fridge after opening milk called Cravendale

 

[Karol]

Pharmaceutical grade milk would be baby formula milk:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7720404.stm

 

[Anduril]

Pharmaceutical grade milk would be baby formula milk:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7720404.stm

Also the marketing of uncontaminated baby milk in 3rd world countries where the mothers mix the powder with contaminated water, causing problems for their babies.
These threads have a habit of going off in tangents.

 

[Karol]

Drawing a parallel with milk I think perfectly illustrates the issue.

How many hives have been lost to varroa because of ineffective OA treatment because of poor quality OA?

No one knows!

 

[For want of a better word]

Carry on.... license to kill mites.

But everyone now knows that OA only works efficaciously if the colony has no brood and then has to be vaporised into the colony?

Yeghes da

 

[Karol]

Sure but if the OA you're using is only 10% if that of its stated strength then it still won't be efficacious no matter how you use it.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Also the marketing of uncontaminated baby milk in 3rd world countries where the mothers mix the powder with contaminated water, causing problems for their babies.
These threads have a habit of going off in tangents.

All down to the big pharmaceutical companies encouraging the use of formula instead of breast feeding - entrapping the poor in an endless circle of finding money to buy milk rather than using a supply they had on tap already

 

[Karol]

Tosh!

Not ALL mums can breast feed for a variety of reasons ranging from physically having insufficient breast tissue to mastitis to taking chemotherapy etc etc etc.

I'm no fan of big pharma who need to be controlled and regulated to curtail their excesses. Ironically the organisations that do that are organisations such as the VMD.

Not that it's relevant but I have always encouraged my patients who are mums to breast feed first line.

 

[Finman]

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You have tongue in your mouth and a nose. With those apparatuses you know what to eate.

 

[Finman]

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But these oxalic acid things have been known clearly 13 years. Nothing essential has appeared after that.

Huge amount of researches have been published, and details have been verified in different climates. Winter brooding is an essential border.

 

[Gilberdyke John]

Oxalic Treatments are just like buses, they arrive in two's, having just approved api bioxal i have been told Oxuvar another one for trickling, authorised 3 weeks ago in October, now on the VMD list

http://www.biovet.ch/en/Imkerei/oxuvar.html

it appears to be a 3.5% oxalic dihydrate mixed up solution dribbled or sprayed

Price ???

 

[madasafish]

Price ???

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