Hiveclean

[For want of a better word]

When its gone its gone!


IMPORTANT HIVECLEAN ANNOUNCEMENT

Dear Customer,
After many years of successfully helping beekeepers rid their colonies of Varroa Destructor Mites, HiveClean can no longer be sold in the UK. After lengthy discussions with the Veterinary Medicines Directorate (VMD) we have agreed not to sell or import and more HiveClean after the end of October 2016.

The reason given is quite simple and it is that another company making an oxalic acid based treatment for Varroa has paid the VMD for a registration of its product in the UK which now makes oxalic acid (and formic acid) medicinal by function and therefore any product containing these ingredients must get authorisation from the VMD to sell or use it in the UK. Unfortunately for us HiveClean contains minute amounts of both as active ingredients and therefore must now be authorised. For us, the cost to register HiveClean is so prohibitive (in the region of £30,000) that it would no longer be financially viable for BeeVital, Austria to supply the UK.

BeeBay would like to thank every one of its customers for their support and apologises if anyone has been inconvenienced by these latest events. We do assure you that we will still be serving your beekeeping needs with organic products to protect and feed your honey bees. Please watch this space.

Please also feel free to protest to the VMD about this decision, should you so wish.

Veterinary Medicines Directorate
Woodham Lane
New Haw
Addlestone
Surrey
KT15 3LS

Vimto ...a dash of OA... a smidgen of formic acid... a drop of finest malt vinegar... pinch of Epsom Salts and a dash of battery acid........
Gently crushed Asprin and a tab of multivitamins....

Make your own!

Nos da

 

[MuswellMetro]

vitafeed gold is about to get the same treatment

 

[dpearce4]

lots of others will be to if the VMD get their way.

And they are out there getting samples of honey from hives to test through the SBIs and RBIs so watch out.

 

[deanrpwaacs]

lots of others will be to if the VMD get their way.

And they are out there getting samples of honey from hives to test through the SBIs and RBIs so watch out.

Testing for what ? Oxalic ?

 

[dpearce4]

Testing for what ? Oxalic ?

if you have it in ur hives and you cant prove you bought apibioxal you will be in trouble.

you need the documentation for everything that goes in them now as they will check it.


http://www.nationalbeeunit.com/index.cfm?sectionid=110

 

[Hivemaker.]

if you have it in ur hives and you cant prove you bought apibioxal you will be in trouble.

How do you think they will go about stopping the bees from bringing oxalic into their hives?

 

[Hedgerow Honey]

I use vita gold in the winter feed bought from wynne jones I have heard no mention of it being withdrawn.

 

[dpearce4]

How do you think they will go about stopping the bees from bringing oxalic into their hives?

Where do they get it from?

Didn't know they used the stuff, mind you looking at the weather today they must be using it to clean their boats lol

 

[Hivemaker.]

Where do they get it from?

Flowers, it is a natural constituent of most honey, in fact in some tests higher levels of oxalic acid have been found in hives that have not been treated with oxalic than others that have.

So will they ban all honey or just ban bees from foraging on flowers.

 

[dpearce4]

Interesting I never knew that.

how are they going to prove stuff then?

 

[Hivemaker.]

Interesting I never knew that.

how are they going to prove stuff then?

They can't, unless it was at some ridiculously high level, which it is unlikely to ever be.

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

When its gone its gone!


IMPORTANT HIVECLEAN ANNOUNCEMENT

Dear Customer,
After many years of successfully helping beekeepers rid their colonies of Varroa Destructor Mites, HiveClean can no longer be sold in the UK. After lengthy discussions with the Veterinary Medicines Directorate (VMD) we have agreed not to sell or import and more HiveClean after the end of October 2016.

The reason given is quite simple and it is that another company making an oxalic acid based treatment for Varroa has paid the VMD for a registration of its product in the UK which now makes oxalic acid (and formic acid) medicinal by function and therefore any product containing these ingredients must get authorisation from the VMD to sell or use it in the UK. Unfortunately for us HiveClean contains minute amounts of both as active ingredients and therefore must now be authorised. For us, the cost to register HiveClean is so prohibitive (in the region of £30,000) that it would no longer be financially viable for BeeVital, Austria to supply the UK.

BeeBay would like to thank every one of its customers for their support and apologises if anyone has been inconvenienced by these latest events. We do assure you that we will still be serving your beekeeping needs with organic products to protect and feed your honey bees. Please watch this space.

Please also feel free to protest to the VMD about this decision, should you so wish.

Veterinary Medicines Directorate
Woodham Lane
New Haw
Addlestone
Surrey
KT15 3LS

Vimto ...a dash of OA... a smidgen of formic acid... a drop of finest malt vinegar... pinch of Epsom Salts and a dash of battery acid........
Gently crushed Asprin and a tab of multivitamins....

Make your own!

Nos da

That's one less bottle of snake oil on the shelves anyway!

So will they ban all honey or just ban bees from foraging on flowers.

probably use the same method as they use to stop bees bringing ragwort pollen and nectar into the hive

Ragwort is poisonous and not at all what you want in your hives or honey

 

[MuswellMetro]

I use vita gold in the winter feed bought from wynne jones I have heard no mention of it being withdrawn.

Did you know hive clean was to be withdrawn ?, i knew 6mths ago. vita feed gold has been withdrawn (and in germany) ?? Nosevit next

it is becasue of the claims & mode of operation on their web site and product literature , seen to be a treatment rather than a feed

from their web site

A recent decision by the British Veterinary Medical Directorate means that VitaFeed Gold must undergo the full regulatory process. While Vita is very supportive of regulatory controls of products and treatments for bees, the cost of the documentation and research required to gain regulatory approval for this particular product is uneconomic.

Technical Director, Dr Max Watkins explained: “Sadly, we have had to take a decision to cease sales of VitaFeed Gold in the UK for economic reasons. While the product has been very successful in strengthening honey bee colonies and is praised by many beekeepers, the cost of putting it through the regulatory process would mean that we would have to raise the product price to levels which we believe would not be acceptable to beekeepers. With regret, we have therefore decided to withdraw the product from the UK market. It is however available in many other countries.”

All other Vita products, including Apiguard and Apistan varroa treatments, remain unaffected because they already have regulatory approval where required.

it may resurface as vitafeed goldie yellow feed supplement but VMD are after them and also nosevit, (SORRY BUT if you followed my post on the forum, you would know over the years that when it comes to legislation i am an information NERD ( also a train spotter and Bus spotter), it is in my make up), so that's two snake oils that wil not be sold,,,,so whats next. yorkshire metal spacers...athena tumdiae hidey holes

 

[charlievictorbravo]

Maybe it's time not to be registered on Beebase? Shame really.

CVB

 

[Finman]

I use vita gold in the winter feed bought from wynne jones I have heard no mention of it being withdrawn.

There is no such treatment against varroa which works via food. Or do you trickle?

.

 

[Finman]

.
when we compare Hive Clean and basic oxalic acid treatments, hive clean is used very different way.

It is informed that hive clean has water, OA and sugar, propolis , plus some other stuffs. And you can trickle it into the hive when ever.

Normal OA trickling has been verified innumerous times during 15 years how it works and how it sbould be done. There are warnings, when it should not be done.

Hive clean is recommended to use against those warnings. Perhaps that is the .reason that hive clean is banned.

 

[madasafish]

Maybe it's time not to be registered on Beebase? Shame really.

CVB

Once registered, never forgotten.

They can trace your movements through the Electoral Register..

 

[Plenty of honey]

They can't, unless it was at some ridiculously high level, which it is unlikely to ever be.

Scare tactics, and it all comes down to one thing..... Money!! Dont think for one minute that its anything else!! Same old!!

 

[Eyeman]

Generic substances such as Oxalic acid or self-made thymol solutions should not be used and beekeepers are liable for prosecution if traces are found during routine honey sampling.

Are the RBI/SBI carrying out routine honey sampling for the VMD? Have those of you that have been inspected this year been asked for their medicines record card?

 

[For want of a better word]

"""The reason given is quite simple and it is that another company making an oxalic acid based treatment for Varroa has paid the VMD for a registration of its product in the UK which now makes oxalic acid (and formic acid) medicinal by function and therefore any product containing these ingredients must get authorisation from the VMD to sell or use it in the UK. Unfortunately for us HiveClean contains minute amounts of both as active ingredients and therefore must now be authorised. For us, the cost to register HiveClean is so prohibitive (in the region of £30,000) that it would no longer be financially viable for BeeVital, Austria to supply the UK."""
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This shirley is working against beekeepers.... an anaalagy is the building of hundreds of new grammer skools throughout the UK when the existing skools are falling apart due to lack of availiable funds to repair.
So at the end of the day, it is Tory government directed idealism of wealth creation and privilege for the few and lust for money that is wrecking our country!

[But thanks for the student loan anyway!]

Yeghes da