Finman
Queen Bee
- Joined
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- Location
- Finland, Helsinki
- Hive Type
- Langstroth
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We discussed here about same things, 2 years ago, and nothing has changed outhors' minds. Facts has no meaning to most. Perhaps Basic knowledge about bees and biology are missing.
http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-27393.html
Like electrict comes from wall, honey comes from hives. Not even from pastures.
You can save foraged honey or waste it. Final waste is to let them bee in the hive as winter food.
The Basic law of beekeeping is that you get nothing from nothing.
Second law is that Apis mellifera collects to itsels a winter store and a human changes it to cheaper sugar.
Here is a research made by professional beekeepers, who try to live with nursing bees and get earnings to quite a big group of human beings.
What is yield of season when you put same size package bees on
1) no foundations
2) foundations
3) new combs
4) old combs
You can see, that the hive needs 100 lbs to draw all combs from honey.
What do you think that if pastures give only 100 lbs? It does not mean that the hive gives nothing. Hive makes combs only when it need combs for storing.
Hive gives perhaps 50 lbs honey and half amount of drawn combs.
Then with foundations. It is halfway between ready combs and strips.
Foundation and cell walls consumes almost same amount of wax.
Old combs and new combs has no difference.
And then, when beekeepers calculated procuction costs off from honey selling price , the strip method gove negative financial result. The package bees were not able to get their own costs back with strips.
PS = post scriptum.
Even if hobby beekeeper is not able to play financial game, it is not bad if he knows some facts about honey production.
Even if the guys are mostly 2 hive owners, they are adult people and they manage well in their ordinary job. They know well the laws of business on their area.
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We discussed here about same things, 2 years ago, and nothing has changed outhors' minds. Facts has no meaning to most. Perhaps Basic knowledge about bees and biology are missing.
http://www.beekeepingforum.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-27393.html
Like electrict comes from wall, honey comes from hives. Not even from pastures.
You can save foraged honey or waste it. Final waste is to let them bee in the hive as winter food.
The Basic law of beekeeping is that you get nothing from nothing.
Second law is that Apis mellifera collects to itsels a winter store and a human changes it to cheaper sugar.
Here is a research made by professional beekeepers, who try to live with nursing bees and get earnings to quite a big group of human beings.
What is yield of season when you put same size package bees on
1) no foundations
2) foundations
3) new combs
4) old combs
You can see, that the hive needs 100 lbs to draw all combs from honey.
What do you think that if pastures give only 100 lbs? It does not mean that the hive gives nothing. Hive makes combs only when it need combs for storing.
Hive gives perhaps 50 lbs honey and half amount of drawn combs.
Then with foundations. It is halfway between ready combs and strips.
Foundation and cell walls consumes almost same amount of wax.
Old combs and new combs has no difference.
And then, when beekeepers calculated procuction costs off from honey selling price , the strip method gove negative financial result. The package bees were not able to get their own costs back with strips.
PS = post scriptum.
Even if hobby beekeeper is not able to play financial game, it is not bad if he knows some facts about honey production.
Even if the guys are mostly 2 hive owners, they are adult people and they manage well in their ordinary job. They know well the laws of business on their area.
.
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