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[GaryB]

For those keepers that use IPM, or not as the case may be, I would be interested to evaluate which methods you find most effective, and which combination you use.

 

[REDWOOD]

None of the above options

 

[JWF]

Just vaping for me

 

[oliver90owner]

Rather more options than those listed.

Do you class oxalic as 'organic'or 'chemical'?

I would only use hard chemicals in an 'emergency' situation.

There is far more to IPM than the above simplistic treatment options.

 

[Plenty of honey]

None of the above too. Just Vaping with oxalic acid, which i would call organic! strictly speaking it is organic.

 

[Erichalfbee]

Just oxalic for me though maybe I could add arranging splits so that you can zap'em when there is no capped brood

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Flawed survey - if you vape, you, as a norm don't need any other method.

 

[GaryB]

Rather more options than those listed.

Do you class oxalic as 'organic'or 'chemical'?

I would only use hard chemicals in an 'emergency' situation.

There is far more to IPM than the above simplistic treatment options.

Yes, I take your point that oxalic is technically organic. What other methods do you employ in IPM?

 

[GaryB]

Flawed survey - if you vape, you, as a norm don't need any other method.

Interesting . Wonder if others do use combined methods.

 

[masterBK]

Don't forget the use of drone sacrificial comb.

 

[GaryB]

Don't forget the use of drone sacrificial comb.

Indeed

 

[Hivemaker.]

Yes, I take your point that oxalic is technically organic.

So is formic acid.

 

[For want of a better word]

So is formic acid.

Is that the stuff Asian Hornets squirt in your eyes to blind you as a defense mechanism??

Would no want to squirt that on me beeses!

Yeghes da

 

[Erichalfbee]

Don't forget the use of drone sacrificial comb.

Which according to LASI gives has very little effect

 

[SDM]

Which according to LASI gives has very little effect

It takes out about 50℅ though, so at least knocks them back by a generation( working on them doubling each generation) I use it mid season in the hope it'll keep late season drones a bit healthier for those pre September treatment matings.

 

[oliver90owner]

What other methods do you employ in IPM?

I think you need to do some reading. What 'IPM' stands for, as a start. First and last words are important (no point in doing anything if there is no problem, for a start).

Organo-phosphates and others are actually organic compounds. Chemicals are combinations of elements in fixed proportions, so both thymol and oxalic acid are, indeed, chemicals. Organic chemistry is the study of carbon chemistry, as opposed to inorganic chemistry,. Question might arise as to whether limestone is 'organic', of course!

But nevermind, I don't think there have been many un-flawed polls on the forum previously. A simple 'yes' or 'no' to a single simple question is about the best way to have an un-flawed poll. Multiple irrelevannt options are the worst.

 

[Finman]

Rather more options than those listed.

Do you class oxalic as 'organic'or 'chemical'?
.

IT belongs to organic chemistry
.

 

[oliver90owner]

IT belongs to organic chemistry

It is actually both organic and is a chemical!

 

[bontbee]

Which chemicals do non-treaters use?

 

[jenkinsbrynmair]

Which chemicals do non-treaters use?

C12H22O11

AKA magic fairy dust