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Ok people, as ever using my enforced unemployment for something usefull I have just spent seveveral hours pulling loads out of the internet and compiled another sticky thread for us to use. There are three parts one is for polish and balms and the second is for the personal use such as medical and lip balms and skin creams. And the third is making the dam stuf and belive me after reading this lot you will hate flippin wax as much as i do!!
The basic idea is that normal clean bees wax is to hard to rub into wood and even harder to buff up to a reasonable polish so we cut it. The agent used to dilute the wax block is then mixed in and in use it then evaporates away just leaving the wax polish behind.
The next step is that the standard bees wax we have is a little sticky and also a little to hard to polish and buff up. So we can then go to the next step which is to add a little canuba wax to the mix this comes from a plant rather than a bee but it does alter our mixes.
There is below a massive and i do need massive amount of recipes for you to decide apon. What I would you do when considering them is to decide what sort of market you can aim for and then mix accordingly. The top recipe is a mixture of the many others and I suggest that you use it as your starting point.
By adding extra bees wax is makes a firmer polish
By adding extra canuba wax ir makes it a better finish after buffing but extreamly hard to get it onto the wood in the first place.
By adding extra solvent we can make the polish softer all the way to making it a liquid rather than a block of wax paste.
Now everyone has normaly heard of bees wax furniture polish but it also used to polish leather and metals and water proofing coats, Barbour have been doing it for donkeys years.
Most of the ingreadiants are easily avalible from chemists or on line sellers.
Prices wise as a product we are talking in March 2011 here.
Metal tin to put it in to sell, £1
Tin labels £0.50
Canuba wax is £5 delivered for 250 grams
Turpentine spirit was £3 for 1 litre
Plus your wax
So the selling price average is about £8 for 200gram tins and about £4 for 80gram tins. Yes you can buy the shop stuff cheaper but we are selling a premium product here not a tesco value range jobbie. It also depends on your market demographics aswell you wont sell exspensive products to poor people.
Also look at your markets to as furniture polish is about 20% of the wax markets. Don’t forget horse leather, falconry leathers, wood turners preffere harder waxes, heritage building maintanence and construction workers, leather sewing uses wax coated threads so does almost every boat sail manufacturer for the threads even more so for old square rigger ships. You will find admin wandering the Haslar harbour next week looking like a cinema ice cream seller wandering up and down selling the blocks of wax off for silly money!!!!! Ha ha ha.
So here we go. Pete’s basic recipe for starters
Two parts by weight of white spirit and one part of bees wax
Next step is to keep to the same ratios but swap to turpentine instead as it gives ,1 a better sellable smell, 2 it produces a better product to sell.
Another step, and belive me we are talking hundreds of flippin steps.
Lower the turpentine ratio so we are useing 5 parts turps to 3 parts wax( 500gm of turps to 300gm of wax)
Heres the next step lets add about a table spoon of canuba wax to the mix
And another, surely your getting the idea by now so i will just list them !!
Homemade Beeswax Furniture Polish Recipes
Recipe #1
Ingredients:
2 1/2 cups Turpentine
4 oz Beeswax
2 TBS Carnauba Wax
• Melt the wax in a double boiler then remove from heat.
• Add the turpentine and stir well with a wooden spoon. Pour into jars, seal and allow to cool before use.
Recipe #2
Ingredients:
2 Pints Turpentine
1 Pint Linseed Oil
5 oz Beeswax
1 TBS Carnauba Wax
• Melt wax in a double boiler and remove from heat. Add linseed oil, stir well. Add turpentine, stir well. Pour into jars, seal.
Recipe #3 – Paste
50/50 Beeswax and Turpentine
• Melt beeswax first then remove from heat and add the turpentine.
Recipe #4 – Paste Recipe
Ingredients:
Beeswax
Paraffin Wax
2 Wide Mouth Mason Jars
Mineral Spirits or Turpentine
• Grate beeswax and fill one jar 3/4 full. Grate Paraffin wax and add to the beeswax until jar is nearly full (about 2″ from top). Empty the grated wax in a double boiler and melt.
• Remove from heat then add an equal amount of mineral spirits or turpentine (nearly a jar full)*. Stir to mix then pour into the two glass jars, dividing evenly. Seal tightly and allow to cool before using.
• *For a less firmer paste, use a full jar of solvent instead of a nearly full jar. For a firmer paste, add some carnauba wax to be melted together with the beeswax and paraffin wax in the first step (no more than 20%).
Recipe #1
Materials Needed
• 4 oz beeswax
• 2 tablespoons carnauba wax
• 2 ½ cups odorless turpentine or mineral spirits
Procedure
Melt both the waxes in a double boiler. Once they melt completely, add the turpentine or mineral spirits in. Mix the polish properly with a wooden spoon and take a clean cloth to apply it over the furniture. Dip a small part of the cloth in the polish and rub it over the furniture in small circles. Keep turning the cloth once it gets dirty. Let the polish dry and then take another clean cloth to buff the furniture. Apply more than one coat if necessary.
Recipe #2
Materials Needed
• 50 g pure soap flakes (scent your choice)
• 100 gm beeswax
• 500 ml turpentine
• 250 ml water
Procedure
Warm water and dissolve the soap flakes in a pan. Shave the beeswax and place it in another pan with the turpentine. Melt the wax over a double boiler or microwave. Check the temperature of both the liquids. They need to be same before you mix them. Now both the mixtures go in together in a pan and stir it with a wooden stick. Follow the application procedure from beeswax furniture polish recipe #1.
Recipe #3
Materials Needed
• 4 oz beeswax
• ¼ cup liquid soap (scent your choice)
• ¼ cup pine oil
• 2 cups turpentine
• 1 cup very warm water
Procedure
Dissolve the liquid soap in warm water and let the mixture cool down. Melt the beeswax in a microwave or double boiler and add the turpentine in it. Let this mixture cool as well. Once both the liquids are cool enough (not at boiling temperature), mix them together properly with a wooden stick. If the beeswax furniture polish turns solid again, reheat it for a minute and use it. Follow the application procedure from beeswax furniture polish recipe #1.
Recipe #4
Materials Needed
• 100 gm beeswax
• 250 ml solvent
• 150 ml warm water
• 50 ml pine oil
• 50 gm pure soap flakes
The basic idea is that normal clean bees wax is to hard to rub into wood and even harder to buff up to a reasonable polish so we cut it. The agent used to dilute the wax block is then mixed in and in use it then evaporates away just leaving the wax polish behind.
The next step is that the standard bees wax we have is a little sticky and also a little to hard to polish and buff up. So we can then go to the next step which is to add a little canuba wax to the mix this comes from a plant rather than a bee but it does alter our mixes.
There is below a massive and i do need massive amount of recipes for you to decide apon. What I would you do when considering them is to decide what sort of market you can aim for and then mix accordingly. The top recipe is a mixture of the many others and I suggest that you use it as your starting point.
By adding extra bees wax is makes a firmer polish
By adding extra canuba wax ir makes it a better finish after buffing but extreamly hard to get it onto the wood in the first place.
By adding extra solvent we can make the polish softer all the way to making it a liquid rather than a block of wax paste.
Now everyone has normaly heard of bees wax furniture polish but it also used to polish leather and metals and water proofing coats, Barbour have been doing it for donkeys years.
Most of the ingreadiants are easily avalible from chemists or on line sellers.
Prices wise as a product we are talking in March 2011 here.
Metal tin to put it in to sell, £1
Tin labels £0.50
Canuba wax is £5 delivered for 250 grams
Turpentine spirit was £3 for 1 litre
Plus your wax
So the selling price average is about £8 for 200gram tins and about £4 for 80gram tins. Yes you can buy the shop stuff cheaper but we are selling a premium product here not a tesco value range jobbie. It also depends on your market demographics aswell you wont sell exspensive products to poor people.
Also look at your markets to as furniture polish is about 20% of the wax markets. Don’t forget horse leather, falconry leathers, wood turners preffere harder waxes, heritage building maintanence and construction workers, leather sewing uses wax coated threads so does almost every boat sail manufacturer for the threads even more so for old square rigger ships. You will find admin wandering the Haslar harbour next week looking like a cinema ice cream seller wandering up and down selling the blocks of wax off for silly money!!!!! Ha ha ha.
So here we go. Pete’s basic recipe for starters
Two parts by weight of white spirit and one part of bees wax
Next step is to keep to the same ratios but swap to turpentine instead as it gives ,1 a better sellable smell, 2 it produces a better product to sell.
Another step, and belive me we are talking hundreds of flippin steps.
Lower the turpentine ratio so we are useing 5 parts turps to 3 parts wax( 500gm of turps to 300gm of wax)
Heres the next step lets add about a table spoon of canuba wax to the mix
And another, surely your getting the idea by now so i will just list them !!
Homemade Beeswax Furniture Polish Recipes
Recipe #1
Ingredients:
2 1/2 cups Turpentine
4 oz Beeswax
2 TBS Carnauba Wax
• Melt the wax in a double boiler then remove from heat.
• Add the turpentine and stir well with a wooden spoon. Pour into jars, seal and allow to cool before use.
Recipe #2
Ingredients:
2 Pints Turpentine
1 Pint Linseed Oil
5 oz Beeswax
1 TBS Carnauba Wax
• Melt wax in a double boiler and remove from heat. Add linseed oil, stir well. Add turpentine, stir well. Pour into jars, seal.
Recipe #3 – Paste
50/50 Beeswax and Turpentine
• Melt beeswax first then remove from heat and add the turpentine.
Recipe #4 – Paste Recipe
Ingredients:
Beeswax
Paraffin Wax
2 Wide Mouth Mason Jars
Mineral Spirits or Turpentine
• Grate beeswax and fill one jar 3/4 full. Grate Paraffin wax and add to the beeswax until jar is nearly full (about 2″ from top). Empty the grated wax in a double boiler and melt.
• Remove from heat then add an equal amount of mineral spirits or turpentine (nearly a jar full)*. Stir to mix then pour into the two glass jars, dividing evenly. Seal tightly and allow to cool before using.
• *For a less firmer paste, use a full jar of solvent instead of a nearly full jar. For a firmer paste, add some carnauba wax to be melted together with the beeswax and paraffin wax in the first step (no more than 20%).
Recipe #1
Materials Needed
• 4 oz beeswax
• 2 tablespoons carnauba wax
• 2 ½ cups odorless turpentine or mineral spirits
Procedure
Melt both the waxes in a double boiler. Once they melt completely, add the turpentine or mineral spirits in. Mix the polish properly with a wooden spoon and take a clean cloth to apply it over the furniture. Dip a small part of the cloth in the polish and rub it over the furniture in small circles. Keep turning the cloth once it gets dirty. Let the polish dry and then take another clean cloth to buff the furniture. Apply more than one coat if necessary.
Recipe #2
Materials Needed
• 50 g pure soap flakes (scent your choice)
• 100 gm beeswax
• 500 ml turpentine
• 250 ml water
Procedure
Warm water and dissolve the soap flakes in a pan. Shave the beeswax and place it in another pan with the turpentine. Melt the wax over a double boiler or microwave. Check the temperature of both the liquids. They need to be same before you mix them. Now both the mixtures go in together in a pan and stir it with a wooden stick. Follow the application procedure from beeswax furniture polish recipe #1.
Recipe #3
Materials Needed
• 4 oz beeswax
• ¼ cup liquid soap (scent your choice)
• ¼ cup pine oil
• 2 cups turpentine
• 1 cup very warm water
Procedure
Dissolve the liquid soap in warm water and let the mixture cool down. Melt the beeswax in a microwave or double boiler and add the turpentine in it. Let this mixture cool as well. Once both the liquids are cool enough (not at boiling temperature), mix them together properly with a wooden stick. If the beeswax furniture polish turns solid again, reheat it for a minute and use it. Follow the application procedure from beeswax furniture polish recipe #1.
Recipe #4
Materials Needed
• 100 gm beeswax
• 250 ml solvent
• 150 ml warm water
• 50 ml pine oil
• 50 gm pure soap flakes