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Old 6th August 2013, 09:25 PM   #1
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Default Honey Jars & Lids Problems

Well only another problem seems everything I order to do with bees goes wrong somewhere.

I ordered 12oz Hex jars (84 pack) from a company, 100 gold tamper stickers, 100 gold honeycomb 63 mm lids.

Well its all arrived after getting sent to wrong address, meh it happens not everyone perfect.

I spent this evening sterilizing all jars/lids getting jarring tank/bucket ready and i was all ready to start jarring properly for the first time/season.

Jarred up 1 jar of honey a couple air bubbles but that I'm not worried with, went to put the lid on and what do i find they DON'T LOCK tight. I screw them on a little tight then POP the lid comes loose!!

Anyone had this problem before????? I've just pretty much wasted the whole evening and now I know next time to check the lids and jars first but tbh that's not the point I'm annoyed.
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Old 6th August 2013, 09:54 PM   #2
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I understand your annoyance - you must get on the phone to your supplier first thing tomorrow and explain the problem, maybe they just sent the wrong lids for the jars?

Personally never had a problem with stuff bought from any of the UK bee equipment suppliers......they know we can alwats come on here and trash their business

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Old 6th August 2013, 10:02 PM   #3
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There are twist lids and screw lids, they are different and fit different threads on the jars, methinks you ordered or were sent the wrong ones for the jars. Easy mistake!
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Old 6th August 2013, 10:07 PM   #4
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this is what both products say

17.10
1 pack contains:84 jars.

63mm lid size required.

Dimensions:Height 98mm, Accross Corners 78mm, Neck Finish 63mm.

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7.20
1 pack contains:100 lids.
If ordering multiples of 100 lids please indicate if you need them bagged separately. Please choose lid colour from drop down menu below.

Is there such a thing as over tightening the lid which makes it pop or should this not be happening end of?
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Old 6th August 2013, 10:20 PM   #5
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As said earlier check you have correct lid style for jars twist and screw don't work together. and like any thread you can over tighten and stretch thread, hence pop I assume.

Just hand tight and then tip jar upside down honey then gives a final seal.

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Old 6th August 2013, 10:23 PM   #6
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As per richardbees above.

Check with your supplier that those things are intended to fit together.
It sounds as though the threads aren't matched.
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... then tip jar upside down honey then gives a final seal
Never ever. The seal is there for sealing, nothing else needed, required or even wanted.
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this is the type of 63mm lids Hex jars have
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this is what both products say

17.10
1 pack contains:84 jars.

63mm lid size required.

Dimensions:Height 98mm, Accross Corners 78mm, Neck Finish 63mm.

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7.20
1 pack contains:100 lids.
If ordering multiples of 100 lids please indicate if you need them bagged separately. Please choose lid colour from drop down menu below.

Is there such a thing as over tightening the lid which makes it pop or should this not be happening end of?
Yes, I've used the twist off lids and jars and I have also made them pop off by over tightening the lid. The lids should be tight but not too much to make them pop.

I suspect you have the right lids for the jars though.
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Old 6th August 2013, 10:46 PM   #10
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Muswell i have the same grips/notches on my lids maybe I'm over tightening them, never had that before as long as honey doesnt leak when tipped upside down there good?
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