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Old 9th April 2011, 12:11 AM   #1
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Unhappy Weed Killing

Hi fellow bee keepers, this might sound like a moan but this morning when walking my dogs round the local football/playing fields saw this chap with a full white boiler suit, white wellies and full breathing mask on walking round the field edges spraying something from a pressurised spraying system. To cut a long story short he was a council employee and was spraying weed killer. He said it was to kill all the weeds around the field edges where the mower could not get into, he did say it was environmentally safe?. My thoughts are what effect it would have on the bees, butterflys and insects, if it was that safe how come he was so well protected. So not only have farmers spraying to contend with but now the council as well.
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Old 9th April 2011, 12:18 AM   #2
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Hi fellow bee keepers, this might sound like a moan but this morning when walking my dogs round the local football/playing fields saw this chap with a full white boiler suit, white wellies and full breathing mask on walking round the field edges spraying something from a pressurised spraying system. To cut a long story short he was a council employee and was spraying weed killer. He said it was to kill all the weeds around the field edges where the mower could not get into, he did say it was environmentally safe?. My thoughts are what effect it would have on the bees, butterflys and insects, if it was that safe how come he was so well protected. So not only have farmers spraying to contend with but now the council as well.
Rather depends what it was- but probably not a problem. The only real chance of it harming bees is if he was spraying with the weeds in flower- but then most herbicides would still be OK, after all they're not designed to attack insects.

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Old 9th April 2011, 12:34 AM   #3
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Happens where I live in Southampton as well. Most years and, I reckon it's been going on for about 7/8 years they use a motorized buggy and drive on the pavements spraying along the edge of properties. Like you say, why are they in full contamination gear? Makes you wonder! Just seems to me that nobody in power CARES!
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Old 9th April 2011, 12:36 AM   #4
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probably sprayng 'roundup' or similar,a herbicide, not an insecticide

btw, don't your council spray all the footpath edges, car-parks, sides of roads, etc
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Old 9th April 2011, 12:36 AM   #5
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Setting aside the possible toxic effects (glyphosate is far from the benign substance we're led to believe), "weeds" are essential for all sorts of beneficial insects - no wonder all sorts of wildlife is in crisis......
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Old 9th April 2011, 07:58 AM   #6
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Setting aside the possible toxic effects (glyphosate is far from the benign substance we're led to believe), "weeds" are essential for all sorts of beneficial insects - no wonder all sorts of wildlife is in crisis......
The good news is on larger areas eg road verges. Hard to believe they used to spray them with lawn weed killer to keep them tidy- now they are more likely to sow wild-flower mixes.
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Old 9th April 2011, 08:02 AM   #7
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They wont be spraying for long.
With all the Goverment cut backs the poor guy will probably be unemployed by August
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I understand pesticide issue for possibly having an affect on bees and needs a lot more research but now jumping on the herbicide crusade to is a bit much, in 80s 90s most of the stronger chemicals were banned which left us with glyphosate that is the chemical all councils use now, we wear coveralls and willies as is the uniform to wear when carrying 20lts on your back I never worn mask as U donít need it, guys love to see all grass verges with mass colour wild flowers but U have seen roads pavements ect push apart with invasive weeds what should we do ?
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(OK RAB, your turn )

Skyhook, you were spot on.

Brossy added a bit about lack of forage for all the food chain above the producer.

You need to remember that some weedkillers and perhaps the delivery agents can be harmful to the operative in either small or excessive doses.

Gramoxone was a very reliable defoliant, but lethal if drunk by design or mistake.

So using the full PPE should not be regarded as OTT. Sensible person doing a less than sensible task IMO. Remember (s)he might be spraying for hours at a time (apart from tea breaks); problems with safety of chemicals may only manifest themselves after some considerable time and exposure (think smoking cigarettes and perhaps asbestos exposure, for examples here).

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Old 9th April 2011, 10:40 AM   #10
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"but now jumping on the herbicide crusade to is a bit much" totally fails to take on board the damage done by habitat destructon - if you treat one part of "nature" the knock-on effects must be taken into account.
Latest research is also showing that glyphosate is implicated in several problems like cancer, genetic damage and ADD - as RAB says "full space suit job" for the sprayer is not being over-cautious.
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